Carmel Sugar Gliders
Caramel gliders were imported into the United States from Merauke on the island Irian Jaya in Indonesia in 2009.
Caramel gliders are thought to be a different subspecies than that of our sugar gliders. Cross breeding them with our sugar gliders results in sterile offspring.
Caramel sugar gliders are actually a standard grey; which is a normal standard for their subspecies. They are a more champagne color than caramel color (wild caught are more caramel color due to their natural diet) and tend to have white hands and feet. They have a naturally calm disposition and make slightly different pitched sounds. They have a distinctly larger frame than our sub-species of gliders and have very thick tails.
The following information was provided by Tyler Cleckley, Owner of GliderBoy Gliders:
"When we first received our wild caught caramel parents we were under the belief that they could produce caramel albinos. With that in mind, I bred a female caramel to a male creme-ino. I kept one offspring, and a friend took one for their program. Two years later, both boys have underdeveloped, to no testicles at all, and do not produce. Where did the sterility come from? I have seen many many gliders having worked with two of the largest breeders (of sugar gliders), despite any negative or positive thoughts associated with them, I was able to see and learn a lot about different gliders. I recalled a glider named Champ, he was an original champagne color that originally came from Helen Moreno. He was a big glider, gorgeous light creamy body, white hands and feet, and from what I can remember, he seemed sweet! That started to ring a bell. The original mosaics that were crossed with these champagne gliders were also sterile. It has always been claimed that the sterility came from excessive inbreeding, but now I am starting to believe otherwise. My personal, educated opinion is that the original champagnes and our caramels are in fact the same gliders that are just compatible enough to breed, resulting in sterile offspring. This is like breeding a lion to tiger, donkey to horse, or a serval to a house cat. These are all pairings compatible enough to breed, yet genetically incompatible. I have seen more than just my one breeding create sterility, and am still following the lines trying to learn more about this subspecies." - Tyler Cleckley
1/20/2014 site updated: Removed the subspecies classification (petarus brevicep flavidus) due to conflicting and non-confirmable information. Upon completion of the Genetics Study, this information will hopefully be clarified and listed on this page.
1/8/2018: This classification was removed because we cannot veryify it to be the accurate classification; Carmels are, however, a different sub-species than our gliders (Petarus breviceps breviceps). Breeding them to our sugar gliders will result in sterile offspring.
Caramel gliders are thought to be a different subspecies than that of our sugar gliders. Cross breeding them with our sugar gliders results in sterile offspring.
Caramel sugar gliders are actually a standard grey; which is a normal standard for their subspecies. They are a more champagne color than caramel color (wild caught are more caramel color due to their natural diet) and tend to have white hands and feet. They have a naturally calm disposition and make slightly different pitched sounds. They have a distinctly larger frame than our sub-species of gliders and have very thick tails.
The following information was provided by Tyler Cleckley, Owner of GliderBoy Gliders:
"When we first received our wild caught caramel parents we were under the belief that they could produce caramel albinos. With that in mind, I bred a female caramel to a male creme-ino. I kept one offspring, and a friend took one for their program. Two years later, both boys have underdeveloped, to no testicles at all, and do not produce. Where did the sterility come from? I have seen many many gliders having worked with two of the largest breeders (of sugar gliders), despite any negative or positive thoughts associated with them, I was able to see and learn a lot about different gliders. I recalled a glider named Champ, he was an original champagne color that originally came from Helen Moreno. He was a big glider, gorgeous light creamy body, white hands and feet, and from what I can remember, he seemed sweet! That started to ring a bell. The original mosaics that were crossed with these champagne gliders were also sterile. It has always been claimed that the sterility came from excessive inbreeding, but now I am starting to believe otherwise. My personal, educated opinion is that the original champagnes and our caramels are in fact the same gliders that are just compatible enough to breed, resulting in sterile offspring. This is like breeding a lion to tiger, donkey to horse, or a serval to a house cat. These are all pairings compatible enough to breed, yet genetically incompatible. I have seen more than just my one breeding create sterility, and am still following the lines trying to learn more about this subspecies." - Tyler Cleckley
1/20/2014 site updated: Removed the subspecies classification (petarus brevicep flavidus) due to conflicting and non-confirmable information. Upon completion of the Genetics Study, this information will hopefully be clarified and listed on this page.
1/8/2018: This classification was removed because we cannot veryify it to be the accurate classification; Carmels are, however, a different sub-species than our gliders (Petarus breviceps breviceps). Breeding them to our sugar gliders will result in sterile offspring.
Founding Caramel Lines
Indy & Nesa (imports)
Maya & Java (imports)
Colton (mosaic) & Crystal (import)
Dedric & Dagmar (imports)
Florian (creamino) & Quella (US bred)
Fritz & Frida (imports)
Gert & Gertrude (imports)
Hackett & Hedda (imports)
Iban (import) & Ida (WF)
Jaesar& Jarvinia (imports)
Kaufman & Karla (imports)
Ladolfo & Lamberta (imports)
Landolf & Quela (possible US bred)
Landolfo & Quell ah (possible US bred)
Macon & Modlaberta (imports)
Nando & Nan (imports)
Otto & Odette (imports)
Pardulfo & Pastora (imports)
Maya & Java (imports)
Colton (mosaic) & Crystal (import)
Dedric & Dagmar (imports)
Florian (creamino) & Quella (US bred)
Fritz & Frida (imports)
Gert & Gertrude (imports)
Hackett & Hedda (imports)
Iban (import) & Ida (WF)
Jaesar& Jarvinia (imports)
Kaufman & Karla (imports)
Ladolfo & Lamberta (imports)
Landolf & Quela (possible US bred)
Landolfo & Quell ah (possible US bred)
Macon & Modlaberta (imports)
Nando & Nan (imports)
Otto & Odette (imports)
Pardulfo & Pastora (imports)
